MINUTES
Welcome:
Branch Chairperson Stu Chapman, opened the meeting welcoming members and discussed health and safety requirements for Waimate District Council
The meeting's agenda was reviewed along with the PPE requirements for the site visit that afternoon.
Attendance:
BCITO Central Otago: Steve McLellan
Building Surveying Ltd: Craig Dodd
Dunedin City Council: Alana Reid, Peter Brookland
Gore District Council: Alan Farquharson
Timaru District Council: Malcolm Lurajud, Vicki McMillan
Waimate District Council: Dave McFarlane, Stu Chapman
Waitaki District Council: Graham MacLeod, Tony Familton
Apologies:
Building Compliance Solutions: Chris Randell
Central Otago Distritct Council: John Redshaw
Consent P&I Services: Phil Bone
Dunedin City Council: Martine Cashell-Smith, Marc Gent
Invercargill City Council: Barry Holstead
MacKenzie District Council: Michael Nesbit
Queenstown Lakes District Council: Peter Meikle
Reece Building Consultants: Michael Reece
Southland District Council: Alan Wild
Timaru District Council: Jayson Ellis, Monica Hakkaart, Peter Gallagher, Murray Winmill
Waitaki District Council: Roger Cook
Teneo Limited: Neville Neems
University of Otago: Russell Wall
Previous Minutes 19th July 2019:
- Nick Hill agreed to have minutes attached to agendas - this has been done and was sent out with our recent agenda
- All attendees were made aware that minutes are now available on the website
- Speaker rights were questioned as to why this was required, it was advised that this was only for the last meeting as there were two attendees who weren't BOINZ members
- Member enquired if the BOINZ Board casual vacancy has this been filled - unsure of this as at the date of this meeting.
- The Cluster Group Specified System forms on website are out of date.
- The Southern Cluster Group met in Dunedin last Friday and this is currently being worked on. Should have this for the next meeting to have approved and ready to go online. Each BCA to inform designers that these have been changed.
- Push for independent third-party certification from Building Control Authorities. Members had been asked to contact BOINZ with any comments. As this was a subject that many members present were unfamiliar with, this has been referred to BOINZ for further information.
- Regarding the level 5 and 6 Diploma, members questioned whether the level 5 now be recognised as level 6. Will prior learning be coming back in? Would the Diploma be incorporated into polytechnic if the merger goes ahead??
- There has been a fair bit of flack about current way the Diploma has been undertaken e.g. too much time away, lack of quality in courses, poor content, BCA's are feeling like guinea pigs for the new layout.
- The Diploma has been very expensive especially with BCO's amount of time away. Tutor Michelle said it is "Like building a plane while it is flying" BCO's have said they are getting more from networking with other Diploma attendees that the actual courses.
Moved: Dave McFarlane Second: Peter Brookland Carried
Correspondence In/out:
N/A
General Business:
What do we want from these meetings?
- Peter Brookland commented that this is hard when there's nothing on the agenda, he queried if we need to let members know minutes are available and what meetings can do for them e.g. networking with peers, do they know they can send an apology? It is hard to get members to put forward ideas as they don't know they can.
- Having guest speakers/presentations with topics members are wanting to talk about (hot topics). Member present discussed topics they would like to hear about:
- Passive Fire, how to Inspect and what to do
- Members would like to utilise In-house technical experts to come along to meetings and present. There were some noted difficulties with this including: they are all busy and will find it difficult to prepare presentations and they would be unpaid. Members agreed this is a great idea but hard to implement with getting BCA's on-board
- What each BCA is dealing with individually - could each BCA do this and present at the meetings?
- Architectural designers
- Issues/solutions. What is the flavour of the month that everyone is dealing with - use these as discussion topics at each meeting. Could have a topic-based meeting each time. E.g., marquees, Woodburners, Sheds
- New Zealand Home Heating Association as presenters
- Sustainability - what are the solutions regarding reusing stormwater etc. Green Building Council, Insulation, Ventilation
Does Green Building Council have an assessor that can come to us for a presentation? - Different areas have different alternative buildings going on - this would be good for a meeting presentation.
- MBIE to present. Previously they were attending Southern Cluster Group meetings, since the change of management in MBIE, this is no longer happening, and members would like to hear more information from them directly.
- Members believe that log house builders based in Geraldine are very keen to talk with the branch.
- Members present agreed that all members should be made aware of the benefits of branch meetings and what they are about. Especially that it is a forum for members to discuss problems and solutions they are experiencing.
- Stu Chapman is currently trying to organise a wooden joinery presentation for our November meeting. Rob & Andrew from Joinery Manufacturers New Zealand have been contacted to see if they are interested. Still awaiting a response.
- Stu Chapman also advised that he brings what he can from other meetings he attends to share at these meetings.
- Cromwell SIPS panel house. Members advised that they would be interested in holding a meeting there in 2020.
- Alana Reid requested feedback from MBIE and BOINZ to members regarding Housing New Zealand (Now Kāinga Ora - Homes and Communities) becoming a BCA and chasing BCO's.
- Micro Credentialing was brought up as a possibility alongside Regulation 18. Steve McLellan noted that he had tried it with BCITO, and it did not work as it was a lot of work to write a whole qualification with little benefit.
- Regarding Legislation, members queried how you separate from beginners to advanced. This is similar to the need for more advanced courses from BOINZ training courses.
- Discussed tiny homes current issues and court cases that are going ahead. The general view from the members was the answers we will get regarding these issues entirely depends on what specifically is argued in court.
Members felt that the Hurunui test case needs everyone's support as this affects everyone. - It has been advised that Professional Institute of Engineers are very difficult to speak with as they don't attend Southern Cluster Meetings or BOINZ meetings.
- Members were asked to put forward ideas for the next meeting. Each BCA to have a champion to send ideas to and they can pass on to Chairperson & Secretary
- Outcomes from the Southern Cluster Group as an agenda item each time - so everyone knows what is happening as some BCA's are not sharing information. It would be useful to have a copy of their minutes provided to circulate to our members
Draft a letter to Southern Cluster Group (Neil McLeod) to request this information (Stu Chapman & Vicki McMillan). To be tabled at the next meeting.
Motion to write a letter to improve communication between both groups (BOINZ and Southern Cluster Group)
Moved: Steve McLellan Second: Alena Reid Carried
- Graham MacLeod shared Engineering New Zealand Magazine article on B2 Durability Determination 2019/30 about durability of steel PS1.
- Discussion on PS1 Maintenance Schedules, Garages and Versatile maintenance schedules. It can't be guaranteed these are ever followed e.g. it is the homeowner's responsibility to keep up the maintenance
- Stu Chapman discussed the issues they are having with a Certificate of Acceptance of a new dwelling built in Christchurch and sited overnight in the district. MBIE have been contacted for advice and guidance on this.
This came to light when the owners applied for a Building Consent for Siting, Services and Foundations. The house has no Code Compliance Certificate as no Building Consent was applied for to build. - Southern Cluster Group discussion - Procedure / Process Standard RFI's (Request for Further Information) all managers are aware of this who attended Southern Cluster Meeting in Dunedin. A first draft of Refusing Consents is being put together by Stu Chapman & Jayson Ellis as a guideline to BCA's
- Discussion on Genius Homes inspections, it all revolves around the date the truck comes. Member queried if they are applying for PIM's
- Alana Reid suggested there should be more engagement with lawyers on residential transactions - owners don't understand what they are buying. Stu Chapman advised this is a TA function, not our role to teach/instruct lawyers.
- Discussed Housing New Zealand (Kāinga Ora - Homes and Communities) becoming a BCA, members present were not confident this is a good idea, some felt that the offices in Wellington and Christchurch might be a potential conflict of interest.
- BRANZ Artisan App - Tauranga & Auckland using this at present. Members felt this would be good for long distance inspections that were ½ hour inspections. But it would need to be trusted companies using this.
- All issues/discussions at these meetings need to be fed back to BCA managers on how worthwhile these meetings are as we all deal with different issues.
Next Meeting:
22nd November 2019 - Dunedin AGM
If you have any ideas for future site visits or guests' speakers, please contact Stu or Vicki.
You can also contact BOINZ National Office Membership Relations Coordinator Henry Cassin on Membership@boinz.org.nz 04 4736002
Meeting closed 12.10pm
Site Visit: 1pm - Oceania Dairy Factory
The site visit to Oceania Dairy was hosted by Shane Lodge (Supply & Environmental Manager) where he gave a welcome presentation which comprised of a profile on Oceania Diary Limited and the commitment to the local farmers and community.
The tour of the factory and subsequent detailed explanations of each section visited was extremely interesting and educational. This company is continuing to grow and thrive in the community.
Oceania Dairy Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of Inner Mongolia Yili Industrial Group Co. Ltd (Yili), which is listed on the Shanghai stock exchange. Yili is China's largest dairy producer and the only dairy producer that has served both the Olympic Games and the World Expo in China.
Inner Mongolia Yili Industrial Group (Yili), China's largest dairy company, purchased the assets of Oceania Dairy in early 2013.
Yili produces and distributes dairy products and mixed foodstuffs, including milk powder for infants. It distributes its products primarily in domestic Chinese markets.
As a result of the purchase of Oceania, Yili commenced development of a $236 million infant formula milk processing plant on a 38ha block of land at Glenavy, near Waitaki River.
This investment in New Zealand is Yili's first major offshore acquisition and has been undertaken to enhance Yili's competitiveness.
Yili Industrial Group (Yili) has recently purchased Westland Dairy in 2019.
Yili Industrial Group (Yili) currently employs 318 people, it has 73 Farmers (Suppliers) within a 50km, radius of site. The average farm has 750 cows.
Last year they processed 248 million litres of milk and this year will process 252 million litres of milk.
It produces 47,000 tonnes per year of Whole Milk Power & processes between 65000-75,000 litres of milk per hour.
Milk collected is at the factory within 1 hour of collection, Hilton Haulage Ltd are used for Milk Collection.
Treated wastewater is spread on 274 hect of local land (pumped)
