MINUTES
WELLINGTON BRANCH
TRAINING AND NETWORKING EVENT
held on
Tuesday, 4th September at 3.45pm
at
Attendance:
Building Officials Institute of New Zealand: Nicola Hakes
Fire and Emergency New Zealand: Wayne Goodfellow, Jessica Keltie, Zoe Mounsey
Kapiti Coast District Council: John Peterson, Michelle Salmon, Leon Smith
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment: Michael Reedy
National Consultants Ltd: Natalie Hardy, Alan Moule
Retired Member: George Mason
Wellington City Council: Maggie Kay
Apologies:
Building Officials Institute of New Zealand: Nick Hill, Henry Cassin, Yolandi Sutton, Jason Goei, Sam Bryant
Holmes Farsight: Rob Tierney
Kapiti Coast District Council: Katharine Wheeler
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment: Murray Usmar, Gary Higham
Wellington City Council: Steve Kallahar
Welcome:
Branch Chair Wayne Goodfellow opened the meeting, welcoming members, new members, and guests to Kapiti Coast District Council. He then asked all members to introduce themselves to everyone present.
Housekeeping was given by Michelle from Kapiti Coast District Council
Correspondence In/Out:
- Wellington Branch congratulated BOINZ on a very successful SBCO
- Call for papers for the BOINZ 2020 Conference is currently open, should anyone have any ideas for topics please contact BOINZ National Office at Events@boinz.org.nz
- The next Branch meeting will be held at the newly completed Rimutaka Fire Station in Upper Hutt 4th December. The station will be completed 25th October and has some interesting engineering features as it is an IL4 Building. Craig White will be presenting on Ecoply which is used throughout the building.
As it is the last branch meeting for the year there will be an opportunity for celebratory drinks at the bar should people wish to do so. Watch this space for more exciting news. - A Training Academy update was provided by BOINZ on upcoming courses in the region and the new online training academy.
Guest Presentation:
Daley Tapa: Potter Interior Design (PID)
- Daley gave an overview of PID and how it ties into the market. It has been around for 50 years and now that it has merged with CSR in Australia it has a lot more resources behind it. There are branches in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Hamilton.
- PID pride themselves in their personal involvement on projects and try to be onsite to provide technical assistance when required.
- Daley then went on the discuss how passive fire is defined: active, passive and other. Then he explained about fire stopping and the need for compartmentalisation and breaking the building down into cells that go both up and down.
- He also stressed that at the start of each build, all the trades such as plumbers and electricians should have all the Compliance information required for all penetrations.
- He discussed the test standards and the installation standards and explained that certain tests do have validity dates at which time the assessments do expire.
- Wayne Goodfellow (FENZ) asked what happens when the code changes, would products have to be re-tested? Daley replied that the new code would supersede and most likely at that point the product would be retested.
- Leon (KCDC) commented that if a building is underway then surely there can be no change as it complies to the consented document.
- Alan (National Processing) commented that the biggest issue was the misuse of products.
- Alan asked if it was possible to obtain from PID the full test reports for products? PID do sometimes make them available (watermarked for the exclusive use), other times they can make certain sections of reports available.
- Examples of Fire stopping in action were shown and then Daley showed some examples of the BOSS- Peno patch and the BOSS Fyrebox.cable transit units. Next he showed some photos of bad installs and then the Fyrebox solutions.
- Leon (KCDC) asked about the durability of the products. Daley explained that after activation a new product would be needed.
- It was asked what PID are doing to educate the installers. Daley responded that if there are any failures they do follow up on previous installations and then try to be on site and make sure they all have the right information. Ultimately all the correct information should be provided upfront at the design stage.
- George Mason asked whether the tests include the effect of moisture in the air and how the products deteriorate due to moisture e.g. in kitchens and bathrooms.
Daley said he would investigate to whether BOSS take this into account when testing but believes it is not specifically tested for.
Wayne then thanked Daley for his presentation and gave him a gift of wine as a thanks from the members and BOINZ.
Zoe Mounsey: Fire and Emergency New Zealand
Unintentional Domestic Fire -related fatal injury in Zealand; 2007-2014.
- Fire and Emergency commissioned this research to build upon previous investigations into fire fatalities, to identify the number of fire fatalities between 2007-2014 within Coronial reports. Due to the backlog of coronial reports the data is only available up to 2014. Coronial reports were used as they provide valuable information from many sources such as Police, FENZ, Pathology and toxicology and expert reports as well as witness statements.
- The research focused on the two key questions:
- Who is at highest risk of fire-related fatal injury?
- What are the common causes and circumstances of fire-related fatal injury?
- The total number of deaths from 107 different fires was 118. Between 1991-1997 the rate was 0.70 per 100,000 people. This has reduced to 0.28 per 100,000 people between 2007-2014.
- Statistics were also provided on whether the properties were fitted with smoke alarms and the percentage that were working.
- The data fall could be as a result in the reduction in smoking rather than fire education.
- By answering these questions, the research would inform Fire and Emergency to effectively prioritise and target action to reduce fire-related fatalities in NZ.
- A question was asked if there was any research on commercial fatalities and Zoe advised that it was not currently being researched.
- She advised that upcoming research will be looking into fire related injuries. They will be working with DHB's and ACC to identify injuries from fires that did not involve a 111 (Fire) callout.
- The research document is available for public download from the FENZ website.
Wayne then thanked Zoe for her presentation and gave her a gift of wine as a thanks from the members and BOINZ.
General Business:
- Minutes from the last meeting need to be accepted. Can members please log onto the website and read them and advise Wayne
- As always please contact Henry if you have any issues
- Discussions are underway with a several members who are interested in the role of Branch Secretary. It is encouraged that each council (including Upper Hutt) provides at least one member to join the Wellington Branch Committee, to be the eyes and the ears on the ground.
- Members were reminded of the new BOINZ APP that can now be downloaded, and the additional feature of BOOST+ for extra benefits.
Wayne Goodfellow extended a special thank you to all in attendance and to all guest presenters. He then closed the meeting at 5.20pm.
Wayne Goodfellow
Wellington Branch Chair

